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» Mission First from Hismethod
I found this quote on Paul Fromont’s blog, via Hamo, that for my own benefit I need to post here. Gordon Cosby (Church of the Saviour, Washington D.C.) said a few years ago: “That in all his years of service he has never (and he emphasized ... [Read More]

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Andrew

Whilst there is heaps of good stuff in the praxis model, is there not also some tensions? Like what about children and nurturing their faith? What about the intellectually disabled etc...?

alan hirsch

Paul and Alan

I am more conviced than ever before the organizing principle of the church is actually its mission and not its ministry. When we organize around ministry we never seem to get to mission even if we intend to. If we organize around mission, we have to do ministry, because ministry is the means by which we do mission. Cosby is right!

Roger

I have struggled mightily with this issue for years...
Many years ago I helped plant a traditional church that started out with a strong focus on community. After a time, this bogged us down and we did, I believe honestly, re-shape our church into an effective missional community. However, partly because of our own ineptness, as we became more missional the church grew and we lost much of the the richness of our community life. We continued on our way effectively reaching people but the quality of spiritual life that we were bringing people into was greatly diminished.
I have come to believe that we are better off never setting a priority of one above another-- mission before community or community before mission-- particularly in church plants. I am convinced that these must always be both/and intentions.

Garth

Love the quote and firmly believe it myself. In a similar way we are called to make disciples not plant churches. Churches then become a fluent consequence of a burgeoning community of growing Christians.

yet....we still have this imperialistic mindset that must plant churches.

hamo

Wonderful quote Paul. I think it is worthy of a link :)

Todd

wow guys,
this is a hard one for me. i agree that turning a community that mostly looks at itself to a community that thinks, looks and acts missionally is nearly impossibe. however, i really want to believe that it can be done. we are working our butts off to do this in our community...of course, in the process of this, the people who pushed back against this idea have moved on. perhaps we are doing it, but by almost starting over at the same time. there have been some hard times in our community's story but we see God orienting us more and more towards mission...

what a challanging thought...

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