I recently listened to a fascinating and provocative interview with Caroline Myss. Likely there are a number of things people might want to critique, but it’s an interview I want to uncritically sit with for a while; there’s wisdom and insight in it. In this episode of Sound’s True, Tami Simon speaks with Caroline about faith and divine intervention, who or what hears our prayers, how to work with prayer in the face of illness, and why prayer is a force that counteracts evil in the world (Duration: 51 minutes). Parts of it – the section on prayer (see below) reminded my of the way prayer is described in two Hollywood films: Bruce Almighty and Evan
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Here’s an extended excerpt to whet your appetite.
Tami Simon [Interviewer] …Caroline, you make a very intriguing statement about prayer, that "all prayers are heard," that all of our prayers are actually heard. I'm wondering if you can explain that. I'm sure that there are people listening who might think, when they hear a statement like that, "Well, that's certainly not my experience! I've prayed for plenty of things, and it didn't seem like my prayers were heard!"
Caroline Myss: Well, I think you just offered me the way to answer that, which is that people look for their prayers to be answered the way that they expect them to be answered. They look for the external world to change, and they don't realize that a prayer is more about changing you than it is changing the world around you. We're the engines of change. We are the means through which the world changes, whether it's our personal world or the world around us. When you pray for change, it is you that is going to change, not the world around you. The answer to a prayer can put you in a desert. It can lead you to the darkest place within you, because that is the answer to the prayer.
When someone says "an answer," they think of it like a scientific experiment, like there's one answer! They don't understand that an answer to a prayer is sometimes a journey that a person is initiated on, that sometimes an answer takes years to unfold, or weeks to unfold, or is a long time in realizing, that a person has initiated a cycle of growth because of a prayer. A prayer isn't answered like a letter or a scientific formula that says, "Here's the answer." It isn't like that, but we have a scientific mindset that we regard as the fundamental template of proof, and we try to reduce everything to a world of mathematics, to numbers, to test tubes, and to technology. That doesn't transfer to the world of prayer.
CM: …To make a choice, negative or positive, sets a cycle in motion and you are held accountable for that cycle. You cannot pray to have yourself removed from that cycle. That's not a prayer that can be answered. You set it in motion, and you're held accountable. You can pray to have the wisdom to manage that cycle, but you cannot pray to be released from a cycle that you set in motion …
… I just finished a workshop on prayer, and I said to my students, "Why are you here? What would make you come to this?" The first time I did one: "Why are you here?" Well, they asked me, "How do you pray?" "What do I pray for?" These are baby questions! "How do I pray?" "What do I pray for?" I said, "How do you expect your prayers to be answered?" Well, they expected their world to change, and I said, "OK, let's go into this. Let's plunge deeply into prayer." I said, "How do you pray and what do you pray for?" and I said, "Let's start with something as simple as: Take one relationship you're struggling with, just one. Take one you're struggling with. What is the source of that struggle and your pain? What is it? That person doesn't want to be with you anymore, that it's a child that doesn't want to see you, that you have some kind of wound?" I said, "If I were to leave you on your own, how would you formulate your prayer? Just tell me how you would articulate your prayer."
The prayers were articulated this way: "God, help heal this." I said, "Help heal what? What are you asking to heal? Where are you going with that prayer, 'Help heal this'?" I said, "Heal what?" I said, "Tell me, what was your participation in why this relationship fell apart? Just talk to me there. What did you do? What did you contribute here? How is it making you feel? Where are you at?" I said, "Let's practice what's called 'reflection.' Let's reflect on this crisis," and as I took them down deep into this, it became apparent to so many people that they were feeding this relationship with anything that ranged from the poison of jealousy, to anger, to the inability to forgive. I said, "Now we're talking about something to pray for! ‘God, make me forgiving, because I am enraged. I am so angry, and I can't get over my anger, and I have to start here.'" I said, "That's where you start. You start with your poison. You start with your poison. Get your eye off that person. Prayer is not about that person. It's about you and the poison you're pouring into something. Get your eye on the poison. Now let's go to prayer: 'God, help me with my own poison.' That's where you begin." And that's where we began…
…People don't realize how darkness operates. It's not demonic ghouls and gargoyles that hover over your home at night. Evil gets you in your pride. It makes you more boastful, it makes you more arrogant, it makes you think that things that happen to everybody else, that you consider an ordinary or common person, can't happen to you, and therefore you make careless, risky, and stupid decisions. You decide that you can get a subprime rate and turn your house over, and that other people (other people!) will have financial problems, but they will never happen to you. Why? Because you're you, and these things just don't happen to you—only to find out they do, and you fell on your own sword.
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